Talk:Against the Day

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Half way through this mighty novel.It is a great work and I am hooked to this American Master(Zen?).

Cheerly and handsomely

Page 3 Both "cheerly" and "handsomely" appear in Shakespeare's The Tempest 1.1.5 and 5.1.294. Given the storms in ATD, this reference would not seem inadvertent.

Godshawl 08:49, 15 January 2007 (PST)

Yes, and The Tempest is seen as Shakespeare's most 'acceptance of life',late in life, play. With sprites, fairies and a New World. ATD is that and much other as well.

The above lines states the deeper connection if there is one....ATD is redemptive, full of grace as one reviewer out it...I think Pynchon may have been alluding to The Tempest with 'co-consciousness"[sic; ATD allusion]--since he is so aware of everthing he is doing....especially since these baloonists are not nautical..... but you can eliminate it and this defense if you think otherwise.

Interesting, also, that that second line should be comprised primarily of adverbs, so that the novel opens a call for action, and immediately commentary upon the action begins, before, in fact, we get the action itself or even a character or an object.

Dear Bleakhaus, I don't know how to write you re this wiki any other way,but I did want to comment on some of the stuff I wrote that you "cleaned up"..some was written in response to the request not to just 'annotate' and link to wikipedia,but to speculate thematically, intelligently, using the text, etc.....I think Pynchon's words on "the daylit fiction", the "natural wonders" of the Fair, etc. which you have cut, which I put down as questions lead to much possible meaning in ATD.....as do the words and perspective on Pugnax and the book he is reading and what P. may be saying..... But I would, of course. My two cents.

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