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[[User:Godshawl|Godshawl]] 08:49, 15 January 2007 (PST)
 
[[User:Godshawl|Godshawl]] 08:49, 15 January 2007 (PST)
  
Yes, and The Tempest is seen as Shakespeare's most 'acceptance of life',late in life, play. With Sprites, fairies and a New World. ATD is that and other as well.
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Yes, and The Tempest is seen as Shakespeare's most 'acceptance of life',late in life, play. With sprites, fairies and a New World. ATD is that and much other as well.
  
There is a paper/essay here. Or more than one.
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The above lines states the deeper connection if there is one....ATD is redemptive, full of grace as one reviewer out it...I think Pynchon may have been alluding to The Tempest with 'co-consciousness"[sic; ATD allusion]--since he is so aware of everthing he is doing....especially since these baloonists are not nautical.....    but you can eliminate it and this defense if you think otherwise.
 
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:This discussion probably belongs elsewhere (on the 1-25 page, say), but I think it's a stretch. "Cheerly" is a common nautical term in use for centuries. Naturally any work that uses it will involve ships and such realities of seafaring as storms. As for handsomely, I believe, but am not sure, that it is also a common word among mariners. Lots of words appear first in Shakespeare, so unless there's some stronger connection between ATD and Tempest, I say leave it out. [[User:Bleakhaus|Bleakhaus]] 15:03, 15 January 2007 (PST)
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Half way through this mighty novel.It is a great work and I am hooked to this American Master(Zen?).

Cheerly and handsomely

Page 3 Both "cheerly" and "handsomely" appear in Shakespeare's The Tempest 1.1.5 and 5.1.294. Given the storms in ATD, this reference would not seem inadvertent.

Godshawl 08:49, 15 January 2007 (PST)

Yes, and The Tempest is seen as Shakespeare's most 'acceptance of life',late in life, play. With sprites, fairies and a New World. ATD is that and much other as well.

The above lines states the deeper connection if there is one....ATD is redemptive, full of grace as one reviewer out it...I think Pynchon may have been alluding to The Tempest with 'co-consciousness"[sic; ATD allusion]--since he is so aware of everthing he is doing....especially since these baloonists are not nautical..... but you can eliminate it and this defense if you think otherwise.

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